Quest For Wholeness – Forgetting the Past Podcast 3 – Transcript

QFW Podcast 3

Joshua 14:6-8


Welcome to our 3rd podcast in our Quest For Wholeness: Healing the Broken series. I’m Pat Domangue, founder of On Fire Ministries, a women’s ministry with the mission of igniting a passion for Christ in the hearts of women and inspiring them to apply God’s word to their every day life. Why? We believe God’s word works.

My daughter, Taylor Draughn, who has a Master’s degree in Marriage and Family Therapy; she is a Christian counselor at the Christian Counseling Resource Center at White’s Ferry Road Church of Christ in West Monroe, LA., and she works for the Center for Children and Families in Monroe, LA is working with me to bring professional and practical aspects to our Biblical study.

Taylor, I am so glad you are here! Why don’t you get us started.


-I would love to! First of all, I want to remind us of our definition of a quest.

• Quest – a search or pursuit in order to find or obtain something

-Throughout our past 2 podcasts together, we studied in Joshua 1:1-9, we saw:

-Joshua being called as the new leader who would take the children

of Israel into the Promised land.

-We are paralleling our quest for wholeness to the journey into the Promised land.


Yes we are. Last week we addressed God’s instruction and the promises He gave to His people entering their Promised Land. Some of the promises were conditional such as them having a prosperous and successful journey, but what isn’t conditional as we are on this QFW is His love and His presence. If we are His… if we are in Christ, God loves us – period. And God will never leave us or forsake us – period.

This week we are looking at Caleb and Joshua. Through their story we will see requirements for completing the journey and experiencing wholeness.

 Joshua 14:6-8 – deep into the story of God’s people entering the Promised Land

 Then the children of Judah came to Joshua in Gilgal. And Caleb the son of Jephunneh the Kenizzite said to him: “You know the word which the Lord said to Moses the man of God concerning you and me in Kadesh Barnea. I was forty years old when Moses the servant of the Lord sent me from Kadesh Barnea to spy out the land, and I brought back word to him as it was in my heart. Nevertheless my brethren who went up with me made the heart of the people melt, but I wholly followed the Lord my God.

Background: – Numbers 13:1, 17a – God told Moses to send spies into the Promised Land and Moses did.

The report of the Promised land:

Numbers 13:27-33 – Then they told him, and said: “We went to the land where you sent us. It truly flows with milk and honey, and this is its fruit. Nevertheless the people who dwell in the land are strong; the cities are fortified and very large; moreover we saw the descendants of Anak there. The Amalekites dwell in the land of the South; the Hittites, the Jebusites, and the Amorites dwell in the mountains; and the Canaanites dwell by the sea and along the banks of the Jordan.”

Then Caleb quieted the people before Moses, and said, “Let us go up at once and take possession, for we are well able to overcome it.”

But the men who had gone up with him said, “We are not able to go up against the people, for they are stronger than we.” And they gave the children of Israel a bad report of the land which they had spied out, saying, “The land through which we have gone as spies is a land that devours its inhabitants, and all the people whom we saw in it are men of great stature. There we saw the giants (the descendants of Anak came from the giants); and we were like grasshoppers in our own sight, and so we were in their sight.”

How we see ourselves and what we believe about ourselves affects our journey.

Taylor – why don’t you talk about that.


Talk about:

• I believe that this all goes back to your identity.

• Your identity is incredibly important because what you believe about yourself has a huge impact on your life.

• I heard Beth Moore say something to the extent of what you believe about yourself you will act that out.

• So if you believe you are a:

o failure or incapable – you will never be able to finish a journey – maybe not even start one

o If you believe that you are an overcomer and capable then you are going to handle the journey well, and when you come to a difficult time or a time of failure you keep pushing through.

• This comes from what God’s word says about us not what the world says. The world is going to tell you so many negative things about your journey and everybody is going to have an opinion. The opinion that matters is God’s and the word of godly counsel.


Something that caught my attention in Joshua 14 was a repetitive description of how Caleb followed the Lord.

Josh.14:8 – Nevertheless my brethren who went up with me made the heart of the

people melt, but I wholly followed the Lord my God.

Josh.14:9 – So Moses swore on that day, saying, ‘Surely the land where your foot has

trodden shall be your inheritance and your children’s forever, because you

have wholly followed the Lord my God.’

Josh.14:14 – Hebron therefore became the inheritance of Caleb the son of Jephunneh

the Kenizzite to this day, because he wholly followed the Lord God of Israel.

(Dr. Tuetsch)

Caleb followed the Lord with Wholeheartedness – (wholly follow the Lord)

Wholeheartedness will be a requirement in our QFW.

However – Wholeheartedness does not mean perfection.

o My daughters – my expectations about their grades and chores


How do we have unconditional commitment to the Lord?

• I believe we first have to know who we are wholeheartedly following.

• The fact is that you cannot be unconditionally committed to anybody until you know that person.

• What follows out of finding out who somebody is either you trust them or you don’t.

• The great thing about God is that when you find out who he is you will always trust him.

• The Bible states that God is love (1 John 4:8) states Whoever does not love does not know God, because God is love.

• He never changes (Hebrews 13:8) states Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever.

• He is the giver of every good gift (James 1:17) states Every good and perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of the heavenly lights, who does not change like shifting shadows.

• He is our protector (Isaiah 41:10) states So do not fear, for I am with you;
 do not be dismayed, for I am your God.
I will strengthen you and help you;
 I will uphold you with my righteous right hand.

• The list goes on and one and what you find is a God that loves his people and wants good things from them.

• How could you not wholly follow this God?

• Even knowing the scripture and the truth I know I still waiver because I let fear get in the way of what I know to be truth.

• We will all do this at some point in our walk, but the best way to get back on track is to remind ourselves of the awesome God we follow.


Numbers 14:6-8

But Joshua the son of Nun and Caleb the son of Jephunneh, who were among those who had spied out the land, tore their clothes and they spoke to all the congregation of the children of Israel, saying: “The land we passed through to spy out is an exceedingly good land. If the Lord delights in us, then He will bring us into this land and give it to us, ‘a land which flows with milk and honey.’

Fast forward 45 years and hear what Caleb said then.

Joshua 14:12

Now therefore, give me this mountain of which the Lord spoke in that day; for you heard in that day how the Anakim were there, and that the cities were great and fortified. It may be that the Lord will be with me, and I shall be able to drive them out as the Lord said.”

There is no doubt from the early story and the later story that Caleb believed in God’s promise and God’s ability.

o Last podcast – We need to know the Word, that we can think on the Word, and Do the Word.

Another requirement to enter the Promised Land and experience wholeness.:

1. Belief in God’s Able-ness

• Do you believe God is able?

Ephesians 3:20 – Now to Him who is able to do exceedingly abundantly above all that we ask or think, according to the power that works in us,

• Counseling class – people get better sometimes just because they believe in a method –

• Significant to me – because we aren’t believing in a method but an all knowing, all powerful, fully able God.

Jeremiah 32:17 – ‘Ah, Lord God! Behold, You have made the heavens and the earth by Your great power and outstretched arm. There is nothing too hard for You.


• For some Christians believing that God is not able might be their issue, but I believe that there are far more Christians that believe God is able but might not answer their prayers or might not answer it the way you want him too.

• I know that this is the category I fall into. Whether I want to admit it or not, this is still an issue of a lack of faith.

• The fact is that however God answers our prayers, it is always for our best even when we cannot see it.

• I also question what might have been different if I would have prayed believing that He would answer what I ask.

• Scripture is very clear about the connection between prayer and faith that what you ask will be answered.

Scriptures like:

Matthew 21:22 – And whatever things you ask in prayer, believing, you will


Mark 11:24 – Therefore I say to you, whatever things you ask when you pray,

believe that you receive them, and you will have them.

Matthew 7:7 – “Ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and

it will be opened to you.

• What would happen in Christian’s lives if we fully believed in God’s Able-ness to answer our prayers? I believe things could change in a big way.


I agree wholeheartedly Taylor!

Before we finish our time together today, let’s review a few key factors we learned:

What we believe about ourself will affect our quest for wholeness.

A requirement for entering our Promised Land and experiencing wholeness is wholeheartedness and that doesn’t mean perfection.

Another requirement will be believing in God’s able-ness or God’s ability and as Taylor pointed out, we have to know God to put that kind of faith and trust in Him but when we come to know Him we will see God answer prayers and give us what we seek.

Thanks so much for joining us and remember that we want to hear from you. If there is something that has really made a difference for you, we want to know what that is. And if there is some topic or issue or any questions you might have you want us to address in the future, please let us know! We are doing this to be a help to you! Until next time, Much love and blessings from Pat Domangue and Taylor Draughn.