Quest For Wholeness – Forgetting the Past Podcast 4 – Transcript

QFW Podcast 4


Ladies, welcome back to our Quest For Wholeness series.

  • Quest – A search or pursuit in order to find or obtain something.
  • Today we will still be studying through some passages in Joshua where God’s people are on their journey into their Promised Land.
  • Remember – we are paralleling their journey into the Promised Land to our quest for wholeness.
  • I want to welcome my daughter, Taylor Draughn who is going to give us a professional counseling perspective about our topic today.

Taylor, why don’t you give us a brief recap of our key points we identified in our last podcast.


I would love to.

  • We talked about the necessity of having wholeheartedness in our quest.
  • We saw how Caleb wholeheartedly followed the Lord and because of his wholeheartedness God gave him what He had promised him – his own personal Promised Land.
  • We talked about reasons we could be safe trusting God wholeheartedly because of His goodness and His character and love toward us.
  • We discussed how believing in God’s ability and in God answering our prayers would impact our journey through this quest for wholeness.


Great recap Taylor!

Today let’s pick up where we left off in Joshua and see a couple other key elements from Caleb’s story that we will be wise to bring into our own story.

Let look at Joshua 14:6-10. –  Then the children of Judah came to Joshua in Gilgal. And Caleb the son of Jephunneh the Kenizzite said to him: “You know the word which the Lord said to Moses the man of God concerning you and me in Kadesh Barnea. I was forty years old when Moses the servant of the Lord sent me from Kadesh Barnea to spy out the land, and I brought back word to him as it was in my heart. Nevertheless my brethren who went up with me made the heart of the people melt, but I wholly followed the Lord my God. So Moses swore on that day, saying, ‘Surely the land where your foot has trodden shall be your inheritance and your children’s forever, because you have wholly followed the Lord my God.’ And now, behold, the Lord has kept me alive, as He said, these forty-five years, ever since the Lord spoke this word to Moses while Israel wandered in the wilderness; and now, here I am this day, eighty-five years old.

  • God had placed a promise in Caleb’s heart.
  • I believe God has placed a promise in all of our hearts.
  • He has put dreams, desires, hopes down deep in our heart.

What stands out about Caleb in relation to God’s promise was Caleb’s

  • Stick – To – It  – ness.
  • God had placed a promise in Caleb’s heart that he had held onto for 45 years.
  • He didn’t give up or quit when the promise didn’t come to pass
    • We get impatient and tend to get discouraged when the promise doesn’t come like we thought it should or when we think it should.
  • Sometimes we are really praying and asking God to bring about the fulfillment of our dreams, desires, or His promises, and when He doesn’t bring that to fulfillment in our time frame we start doubting
    • We wonder if God ever really intended to give it to us.
    • We question if He hears us or if we heard Him right in the first place.
    • We wonder if He would really do such things for us.
  • So much of the time we are confident in God’s ability but we doubt and question if He will do it for us. Then discouragement sets in and we jump on the give-up train.
  • How many times have I wanted to quit in ministry?…
  • What is going to make the difference for us? What is going to keep us off the give up train and in the believe lane?

I think it is how we answer this question.

  • Do you believe the promise is worth the wait?
    • We must know the promise is worth the wait.
    • If God has promised, it is worth the wait.
    • James – every good and perfect gift is from above coming down from the Father of heavenly lights.
    • God is a God of promise. He is a good gift giver and the most excellent dream fulfiller.

Matthew 7:7-11

“Ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you. For everyone who asks receives, and he who seeks finds, and to him who knocks, it will be opened. Or what man is there among you who, if his son asks for bread, will give him a stone? Or if he asks for a fish, will he give him a serpent? If you then, being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father who is in heaven give good things to those who ask Him!


    • Patience is essential in the process of waiting for God’s promises to come to fruition in our lives.
    • When I think about this concept, my mind always wonders to how many people decided they couldn’t wait any longer and went after their own promise that couldn’t compare to God’s promise for them.
    • I have seen this happen in friend’s lives, client’s lives, and even in my own life.
    • The youth at our church recently went to a conference where the main topic was God’s call and purpose for each of their lives.
    • When the youth got back and met the next Wednesday, the youth pastor said something that astonished me.
    • He stated that many of the youth in that coliseum would not see God’s promises fulfilled in their lives because they will give up before it happens.
    • This is so true in many Christians lives today.
    • The fact is God’s promise for you is going to bring about difficult times, and there will be times that you want to give up.
    • Think about all the blessings that God has in store for you that you will miss out on if you give up.
    • One thing I say often is that I don’t want to get to the end of my life and look back and see that I could do more and better than what I have done.
    • I think this is a good statement to roll around in our minds ever so often to remind us of the true goal which is living our life fully devoted to Christ and in turn living out his promises for us.


  •  Are you willing to stay wholly devoted to Him in the wait?
    • Caleb knew and trusted in the power of God’s word – if He spoke it there was no stopping it. It was going to come to pass.
    • Intestinal fortitude – courage; resoluteness; endurance; guts
    • 45 years – he waited – that is stick-to-it-ness
  • Like Caleb – Pursue the promise with shameless confidence and asking.
  • Luke 18:1- 8 (The Message)

Jesus told them a story showing that it was necessary for them to pray consistently and never quit. He said, “There was once a judge in some city who never gave God a thought and cared nothing for people. A widow in that city kept after him: ‘My rights are being violated. Protect me!’ “He never gave her the time of day. But after this went on and on he said to himself, ‘I care nothing what God thinks, even less what people think. But because this widow won’t quit badgering me, I’d better do something and see that she gets justice – otherwise I’m going to end up beaten black and blue by her pounding.'” Then the Master said, “Do you hear what that judge, corrupt as he is, is saying? So what makes you think God won’t step in and work justice for his chosen people, who continue to cry out for help? Won’t he stick up for them?I assure you, he will. He will not drag his feet. But how much of that kind of persistent faith will the Son of Man find on the earth when he returns?”

  • Sometimes we are afraid to have that kind of confidence and we are afraid to ask. We wonder: what if God says no? Then what?
  • We have to come to a place of understanding God’s love for us – resting our confidence in our asking on His love. God’s word tells us that He is for us, that He fights for us, that He loves us with an everlasting love.
  • His love is not just for us. His love is for you individually.

MENTORS – So many along the way – so thankful…

    • Love us and speak truth into our life – sometimes a difficult word
  • Honestly, I don’t know how anyone could do it with out those godly mentors. Sometimes we need them to be the human voice that says, you can’t give up; you must keep on pursing God’s promise; it will be fulfilled. Especially when the wait has become long and discouragement is lingering at our doorstep.

Taylor, have you got any good advice regarding mentors?


-For me, a mentor and a friend are two very different things.

-A friend is someone that you enjoy spending time with, but it may not go much deeper than surface level.

-A mentor is someone who you also enjoy spending time with but the purpose is to grow one another not just have fun.

-Obviously you can have friends that are mentors and vice versa, but the biggest difference in the two is that a mentor is going to tell you what they believe God is leading them to tell you even if it hurts.

– Some of the greatest lessons in life are the lessons that come about from a mentor being willing to hurt your feelings in order to grow you as an individual

-Quick side note- I hope that when I make the comment above that you are not placing someone stating something hurtful and mean-spirited in the same category. This is a very different situation. What a mentor says is meant to make you a stronger Christ follower not simply to hurt your feelings.

-The fact is that us as humans often have rose colored glasses on when we look at ourselves, and this can often interfere with us growing. A mentor can be incredibly beneficial in this aspect, but you have to be willing to listen when they have something to say.


Let’s look at what Caleb had to do to receive his inheritance in Joshua 15:13-14.

Now to Caleb the son of Jephunneh he gave a share among the children of Judah, according to the commandment of the Lord to Joshua, namely, Kirjath Arba, which is Hebron (Arba was the father of Anak). Caleb drove out the three sons of Anak from there: Sheshai, Ahiman, and Talmai, the children of Anak.

To receive God’s promise in his life, Caleb had to take action. He had to have a Willingness to take action. He had to drive out the inhabitants of the land.

    1. God still required him to act in faith and drive out the obstacles placed before him in the physical.
    2. There were enemies in his promised land and there will be enemies in our Promised Land – we are going to have to take the action to drive them out. The last thing our enemy wants us to do is receive God’s promises in our life so we can be sure that we are going to have to do like Caleb and drive out the enemy or the obstacles in our Promised Land.

Are you willing to go in and take action?


-Receiving God’s promises for us will not be a walk in the park.

-If it was, we would all be living in his promises.

-It takes us being willing to do things that are difficult, time consuming, and maybe even anxiety provoking to get there.

-For me this usually involves confrontation and/or being in a situation where I have to sell myself as a therapist that is capable.

-These are not things that I am comfortable with, but the fact is that if I want God’s promises I will have to go through these types of situations in order to get them.

-Sometimes it gets difficult, and we look at God like he doesn’t want us to succeed. That is definitely not the case.

-The fact is that in us being willing to do things that are difficult or that are uncomfortable for us we grow as Christians.

-In those situations, we have to rely on God to get us through them, which in turn leads us to realize that in all situations where we have to act we need God’s assistance.

-Being willing to take action is difficult when we are seeking out God’s promises for us, but it was never meant to be easy.



Taylor, I think of this a lot like a spiritual workout regimen.

  • In the physical, we workout to build physical muscle and help us have endurance and strength.
  • These difficult obstacles that we face help us build spiritual muscle. We get stronger as we go, trusting God and walking in obedience to Him, even facing the enemy in our lives.

Sometimes all we have to have is the willingness to take action and God will do the rest. Sometimes, like Caleb, God will require an action to be taken by us to see our promise fulfilled. I do believe that as we follow God in obedience we can know He is building our spiritual muscle helping us to grow into the person he created us to be.


  • I want to encourage you to do something specific, tangible, and practical that will help you stay focused on receiving all that God has placed in your heart, your dreams, desires, wholeness…
  • Write Psalm 27:13 and Galatians 6:9 on an index card or sticky notes…

Psalm 27:13 I would have lost heart, unless I had believed That I would see the goodness of the Lord In the land of the living.

Galatians 6:9 – And let us not grow weary while doing good, for in due season we shall reap if we do not lose heart.


I hope this has been an encouragement to you to pursue the Promise of God in your life with relentless abandon – never giving up, knowing that God is working in your life to build your spiritual muscles along the way and that He loves you with an everlasting love and wants to see you prosper in your spiritual walk with Him.

Let us know how this has helped you or how we can help you in the future podcasts. Contact us through our web-site at If you are local and would like to schedule an appointment for counseling with Taylor, call the Christian Counseling Center at White’s Ferry Road Church of Christ in West Monroe, LA.

Until next time, be blessed and keep on pursuing God’s promise for your life. Don’t give up!